tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433770610584182438.post2621301800959677013..comments2023-08-04T12:00:47.012-07:00Comments on Does Air Exist?: The True Followers of Christ: A Group of Fanatics Does Air Existhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11394981462884670461noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433770610584182438.post-34636758047284102013-01-21T09:14:54.903-08:002013-01-21T09:14:54.903-08:00For some parents when they lose their child under ...For some parents when they lose their child under these circumstances there is a feeling of personal responsibility. The question they most ask themselves is whether or not they had enough faith, so in that instance perhaps a form of pride has entered in, since they thought control was in their hands by it. Still even when a child passes on, there is usually little thought that a doctor should have been called. And if a person had that regret, then surely the sin of pride did exist, that somehow we could have arrested God, and forged a different destiny. Some times he allows us to do just that, but our road is shown to be much rockier than before, until we just get it, or he we are totally driven off of it.Darrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02668813583444666783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433770610584182438.post-43023931141724992002013-01-21T08:54:28.055-08:002013-01-21T08:54:28.055-08:00Train up a child in the way he should go: and when...Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.-Proverbs 22:6<br /><br />As parents it is our duty to raise our children in both word and example. Either something is right and honorable towards God or it is not. Can you think of anything God would approve of, that should not be taught them? Children do not have choices in their early stages of life, the parents are those solely responsible for making them, not the state, or others. There will be no government agencies standing to make an account for themselves on judgement day, there will be many Fathers and Mothers.<br /><br />So why do so many indicate on here that I am within my rights to practice Faith healing, but not so to teach it to my children? If it is wrong for them, it is wrong for me, and vise-versa. <br /><br />@ Anon 9:14. A work is an action. If we truly believe God will heal us, or if we believe that the ingestion of medicines is wrong, or that we should not trust in man to save us, then why would our actions indicate otherwise?<br /><br />I want all my children to live, and not only live, but live abundant and godly lives. <br /><br />For many parents in the church, including myself, there are many other considerations. Often times there are pressures from family and others and the courts and other agencies, which cause us to make a choice between practicing our beliefs with our children, or acquiescing in these cases to the state. We should not be forced into making that decision, since it affects our religious liberty and conscience. However when the choice is to keep our children or not, we invariably choose to keep them, and follow court orders. It should be obvious to any outsiders then that we as parents do love our children. The Wylands are a perfect example of this. There was no doubt that they loved their child, and would do what they needed to keep her, yet they were scorned only because of their beliefs. http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-city/index.ssf/2011/06/timothy_wyland_described_as_a_loving_caring_father_in_oregon_city_faith_healing_trial.htmlDarrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02668813583444666783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433770610584182438.post-81330864510555135902013-01-20T22:22:03.606-08:002013-01-20T22:22:03.606-08:00Darren, your right about "reasonable beliefs&...Darren, your right about "reasonable beliefs", as in your 5:57 comment,what your doing to children isn't reasonable. That's the problem. You don't agree with abortion, me neither, because the dying child has no say in either death.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433770610584182438.post-86863294167144052652013-01-20T21:14:32.734-08:002013-01-20T21:14:32.734-08:00Darren, I haven't commented so far but almost ...Darren, I haven't commented so far but almost screamed at the computer screen reading your last comment! No court in the land is going to indite you for caring for the hungry, fatherless, widowed, or abused. Works Christ commanded us to perform.<br /><br />How is it a "work" to refuse medical care for a child? You have all the freedom in the world to do with your own (adult) body what you want, but there is no right to allow another in your care to die with out basic medical care.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433770610584182438.post-7963235821052901692013-01-20T19:32:00.012-08:002013-01-20T19:32:00.012-08:00The road to hell is paved with good intentions. It...The road to hell is paved with good intentions. It's obvious that parents want their children to live. Intending for a child to be healed by faith, and allowing them to pass without the benefit of modern science seem to be one and the same. The parents wouldn't set out to kill their own children, but there must be a point in their sickness where they can see that they've failed? It looks from the outside like pride kills, not faith.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433770610584182438.post-42516666059540714122013-01-20T17:57:53.990-08:002013-01-20T17:57:53.990-08:00You are comparing two different things. Those who ...You are comparing two different things. Those who proclaim war intend to take lives, those who practice faith healing intend to save them. Faith without works (action) is dead, so if we do not have the right to act upon our reasonable beliefs, then we do not have true freedom of religion.Darrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02668813583444666783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433770610584182438.post-7375049735162214082013-01-19T12:14:06.886-08:002013-01-19T12:14:06.886-08:00The freedom of belief will never be infringed upon...The freedom of belief will never be infringed upon in the US. The freedom to act on your beliefs when it hurts another person should never have been tolerated. If you give a Muslim the same freedom to act on their beliefs that have been given to Christians this place would be a legal war zone. You can believe what you like, you can't kill whomever you wish.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433770610584182438.post-23380833892262891782013-01-18T20:59:48.689-08:002013-01-18T20:59:48.689-08:00unpopular? Yes. Unbiblical? Demonstrate it. Crimin...unpopular? Yes. Unbiblical? Demonstrate it. Criminal? Depends on Jurisdiction. An Oregonian would not fare as well as let's say a Washingtonian. But in fact the only trial we should all be concerned with is the one on the judgment day, and the laws that govern the Kingdom of God.Darrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02668813583444666783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433770610584182438.post-76244247921585696482013-01-18T07:18:31.686-08:002013-01-18T07:18:31.686-08:00The Christ of love that the gospel teaches is not ...The Christ of love that the gospel teaches is not unpopular. The belief that doctors should be avoided and those who do not are risking condemnation is unpopular and unbiblical and often criminal as we have seen with the multitude of criminal trials in the FOC and COFTB.<br /><br />Please be careful what you defend as your belief has resulted in the needless deaths of children.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433770610584182438.post-19613552657940384032013-01-17T20:42:48.377-08:002013-01-17T20:42:48.377-08:00It was from 'The Sunday State Journal', Ju...It was from 'The Sunday State Journal', July 4, 1909. It was an editorial about an episode in the Church which had made headlines the month before. The Kansas legislature was incited by some to place some new laws on the books to deal with the Church.<br /><br />I am not sure which questions I overlooked, maybe I could review the comments upon that post. If the question was already dealt with in my article, then I did not feel to reiterate my reasons. Also I recall that I wanted to deal with any questions after my cousin Jerry had posted his article so that we were not constantly wading through the same waters. Some of the questions may have been dealt with there. <br /><br />"Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will: The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds: But the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel." (Phil. 1:15-17) I more than understand my belief is not popular, but I am always ready to defend it. Darrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02668813583444666783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433770610584182438.post-62083627408976954852013-01-17T18:32:49.191-08:002013-01-17T18:32:49.191-08:00Darren what newspaper is that from?
Also before y...Darren what newspaper is that from?<br /><br />Also before you write again about the condemnation of those who use doctors, you should consider answering some of the questions posed to you from the previous post. By failing to answer direct biblical questions about the faith healing doctrine you promote you lose credibility.<br /><br />Please do not take this personally but you said in the previous post you would respond and you failed to do so.<br /><br />Is that because your belief is not defensible?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433770610584182438.post-80305409247683009512013-01-17T13:02:05.556-08:002013-01-17T13:02:05.556-08:00I am not familiar with the Followers of Christ. I ...I am not familiar with the Followers of Christ. I was a little lost as to your blog post, but it did prompt me to click on your "about" tab<br />I enjoyed reading about you and why you are writing.<br />I wish you well in your academic venture! :)<br />my sister is writing her doctorate in Psychology so I am aware how much work you have ahead of you!<br />I wish you complete success and happiness in all you do!<br />Thank you for sharing!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05404390306767381901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433770610584182438.post-29848692270306482582013-01-17T13:00:39.932-08:002013-01-17T13:00:39.932-08:00Thanks for the great post very interesting takeThanks for the great post very interesting takeAll Is Not Losthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10319813087202122879noreply@blogger.com