tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433770610584182438.post5660728465314033854..comments2023-08-04T12:00:47.012-07:00Comments on Does Air Exist?: Thou Shalt Not Kill ThyselfDoes Air Existhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11394981462884670461noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433770610584182438.post-45865820592156122302013-01-16T18:43:44.143-08:002013-01-16T18:43:44.143-08:00All our sins came after Jesus died on the cross. E...All our sins came after Jesus died on the cross. Even suicide. We are already atoned for. To say we are sinners, is to say Jesus died for nothing. Where sin abounds, grace abounds more.<br /><br />Suicide is not a selfish act. It is an attempt to end the pain. The same way we put down dogs who are sick. The same way we dope people up in the hospital into comas just to prevent pain from making their last days unbearable.<br /><br />If you have never suffered deeply disturbing depression, you can't possibly understand the darkness one feels. To call a suicidal person selfish, is to wound them, and only further their pain.Becca Suttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15044931257608314738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433770610584182438.post-13840297607306209712013-01-08T19:01:20.552-08:002013-01-08T19:01:20.552-08:00sounds simple. tell the people that suicide is unf...sounds simple. tell the people that suicide is unforgivable that way you dont feel guilty for not helping them. suicide is forgivable. God can do anything. if someone commits suicide i believe they dont think there is another way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433770610584182438.post-86108801486638682502013-01-05T23:48:50.715-08:002013-01-05T23:48:50.715-08:00I think suicide can be forgiven if a person isn...I think suicide can be forgiven if a person isn't in their right mind. But it is wrong on so many levels. We are not our own - we belong to God and He has placed us here to fulfill our purpose. We don't get to check out early because life is hard. <br /><br />Despair and deliberate refusal to accept God's mercy and forgiveness are what I have been taught is the unforgivable sin. I think of St. Peter and Judas. St Peter betrayed our Lord 3 times but accepted Jesus' forgiveness and became the greatest of the Apostles. It takes a humble heart to accept forgiveness.<br /><br />Judas hanged himself in despair. Despite all he knew of Jesus, he still didn't believe or wouldn't accept his forgiveness. That's why I believe Jesus said it would be better for him if he had never been born. I believe Judas sent himself to hell - he prefered eternal separation from God to being forgiven. That's a form of pride. I believe Satan was offered and refused forgiveness as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433770610584182438.post-24836449341764230052013-01-05T21:45:37.624-08:002013-01-05T21:45:37.624-08:00It's just murder with no time for repentance. ...It's just murder with no time for repentance. Plain and simple. Can you be forgiven for killing if you never repent? I wouldn't roll those dice!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433770610584182438.post-82361031009543874892013-01-05T21:43:39.749-08:002013-01-05T21:43:39.749-08:00I think the person the last commentor is referring...I think the person the last commentor is referring to was JB. That was about 20 years ago, I believe.Does Air Existhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11394981462884670461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433770610584182438.post-68501996473157514462013-01-05T21:41:21.646-08:002013-01-05T21:41:21.646-08:00The unforgivable sin is actually to blaspheme the ...The unforgivable sin is actually to blaspheme the Holy Spirit. I don't know how one would do that, exactly. Maybe a good topic for a theologian to answer ...<br /><br />Plenty of people do not believe in God, and later become born-again Christians. The Apostle Paul persecuted the Christians before being called into ministry himself.Does Air Existhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11394981462884670461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433770610584182438.post-77106843183081482932013-01-05T21:12:52.145-08:002013-01-05T21:12:52.145-08:00I was taught when i was young that there was only ...I was taught when i was young that there was only one unforgivable sin and to the best of my memory that was to say that you did not believe in God. If that is true then is suicide a forgivable sin?Grant Eellshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07944587214533725375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433770610584182438.post-90458092736086945512013-01-05T20:15:32.402-08:002013-01-05T20:15:32.402-08:00Are you referring to the Oregon city group? That d...Are you referring to the Oregon city group? That doesn't sound familiar.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433770610584182438.post-11098021576800864082013-01-05T18:05:38.278-08:002013-01-05T18:05:38.278-08:00At least two of the last three men who committed s...At least two of the last three men who committed suicide in the FOC Oregon City Church were people who were questioning the church semi-secretely. They just could not rationalize this being god's only chosen church in the world and the church still not have a preacher or the healing miracles seen in earlier years. <br /><br />In Oregon City, you just cannot tell anyone you question the church's "rightness" your wife and children might leave and never speak to you again if you continue to question.<br /><br />The other was someone who left the fold and returned. Most people shunned him. We will never know if the shunning or guilt over the life he may have led outside the church drove him to take his own life. God please have mercy on all our souls if our actions had part in his decision....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4433770610584182438.post-9814023503551544222013-01-04T18:18:02.939-08:002013-01-04T18:18:02.939-08:00There have been too many. One is too many, it is t...There have been too many. One is too many, it is the ultimate in selfish acts. It must say something about the power of depression for someone to do that in the setting of the church. We're so close to one another. It would seem like you would feel close enough to someone to at least talk to them about whatever is bothering you. It's also telling of the strength of ex-FOC that you could be cut off from that support system and persevere. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com