I appreciate all the thoughtful questions and
comments people have posted and emailed this past week. This week, I respond to
your questions. Please keep them coming - I love hearing from you!
Question: How do you as a "church"
turn anyone away, didn’t Jesus die to save everyone? How are they any different
than a person off of the street? If they are not baptized, what difference does
it make? If someone wants to try to "follow" the Bible in the same
fashion, how are they not allowed? Is that even legal? Seeing that a church is
tax exempt, therefore needs to benefit the whole community
Answer: The “church” began to turn people
away after Walter White died in 1969 because they believed his death marked the
end of baptism and that anyone not baptized by that point had lost their
opportunity. Walter had prophesied the end of time three years before his death
(he believed his vision meant time would end in three years) but it was
actually a prophesy of the end of his own life. The Followers continued on
believing time would end soon. As time went on and the end didn’t come, nor did
another “anointed” prophet appear, the belief spread that the children of the baptized
people (and eventually grandchildren) were “born holy” because of their
parents. The issue became a bit murky when some people adopted children from
“the world” and that issue is not resolved. For thirty or so years, the church
got away with disallowing outsiders, but it caught up with them and they lost
their non-profit tax exemption.
Question: Do followers read the Bible?
Answer: It wasn’t emphasized when I was there.
There are about two dozen Bible verses are important to the religion. The key
verses, out of context and largely misinterpreted, that dictate the actions and
beliefs of the Followers. Our Bibles consisted of the New Testament and Psalms
only. And we were told that the only true Bibles were in King James Version.
This was because of the verse in Revelation 22:19: “And if any man shall take
away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part
out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which
are written in this book.” I’m not saying other Followers were as naïve as me,
but I always believed that English was the Biblical language. When I became a
born again Christian and showed up to a family function (where members of the
Idaho FOC church were also present) carrying my NIV Bible, I was cast as a
heretic for reading a false Bible.
Question: I have heard of a few different
people doing public confessions. What’s that all about?
Answer: This practice has disappeared. In
the days of Walter White, I’m told he would preach about a specific sin and
then call out people who were guilty of that sin during his sermons. Also when
people were caught in sin they had to confess it from the pulpit and ask for
the church’s forgiveness. This practice continued after Walter’s death until
1986 when the last church elder died and the church stopped having bible
teaching.
Question: I'm curious, how long does the
shunning happen? Months? Years?
Answer: I always thought it was a year, but
my mom says that it could go on much longer and sometimes shorter, depending on
the circumstances (including family influence). Sometimes people are
intentionally shunned out of church. I write about this much more specifically
in my memoir.
Question: Why not go blind too? Is it not
Gods will if you have rotten teeth or poor eye sight?
Answer: Good question! Followers haven’t
always gotten dental care. This changed when Walter was alive and he instructed
the church to get dental care because it was the law for children. I have old
photographs of men in the original group that came to Oregon from Idaho and
there was one older man wearing glasses. I think that Followers don’t consider
optometry to be medicine. It is seen more along the line of a walking stick or
a wheelchair for someone who cannot walk.
Question: Is it okay for them to associate
with us at work but not anywhere else?
Answer: Yes, Followers are allowed to be
friendly with worldly people while doing business, but that ends when work is
over. I’m sure they would stop and say hello to a work acquaintance if they
bumped into you in public, but they would not invite you to their home or make
social plans with you.
Question: But what about Jesus? What about
His sacrifice on the cross for us... for all of us?? John 14:6 Jesus says that
He is the only way to heaven...to the Father- His Father - God. Read all of the
gospel of John to learn about who Jesus is.
Answer: The most important
thing on this subject, from the FOC interpretation, was the conversation Jesus had with Nicodemus in John,
chapter three. Followers believe that when Jesus says: “Except a man be born of
water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God (John 3:5)”
that Jesus is referring to a water baptism, not our water birth. So thus, you
cannot go to heaven unless you are baptized with water. Further, they believe
you cannot be baptized except by a man who is called by God with miracles and
signs to preach. Since there is no such person available to baptize people,
there is no assurance of salvation.
Question: Are you still worried that you
will go to hell because you left?
Answer: Yes, I worry about Hell. Not because
I left, but because I was a part of that church to begin with. I spent my
formative years convinced any misstep would send me to Hell and I’ve spent my
adult years trying to reason, work, pray, and justify my way out. I know what
the Bible says about Salvation, the Good News of Jesus. I believe it…I try to
believe it…I want to believe it. But the voices of doubt and substance of my
heritage haunt me.
"There
is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath
torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love."
-1
John 4:18
Suzie, My prayers are with you, when you are baptized, accept Jesus as your personal Savior and believe in the God, you will be saved. You can develop a personal relationship with him and it sounds very much like you have. I admire you and believe the Lord has guided you in the right direction. Your blog is very inspirational. I will pray that those voices of doubt leave you alone. I think that at times we all have that in our minds. God is good and gracious, God's Blessings, Deborah
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