Sunday, March 11, 2012

They Put This Church To Sleep

Here is another letter from 1998 or 1999. It is not signed, but is in the same handwriting and writing style as the one letter Tom Nichols did sign. Names have been shortened to initials to protect the privacy of anyone mentioned, though anyone in the church will be able to discern who it is - these same insiders have had access to the letters, so it should not be new information. In the case of the man who is mentioned / condemned throughout the letter, I only used his first initial.

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Circa 1998/1999


Due to ever-growing fake doctrine taking over in this church more and more, I will speak out. It start with D., in the back room of this church condemning and making fun of W.S. and his wife for letting their daughter leave their home (afterwards they kicked K.H. out of their home) who was going to try and get back with her husband B.H.. In simple words, D. did not believe according to Walter White who marriages together not split them.

But of D., out of his heart, he spoke his true feelings and was condemning B.H. and his wife getting together and trying to save their souls and marriage. But D. changed like a double minded man he is. He made people believe after he showed his hate and unbelief on their marriage. Someone told D. he was wrong. Why? Because after four to five days, he told people he was 100% behind this marriage being put back together.

Who was this person or people that told D. he was wrong? Why and if they can change D.’s mind on this marriage why can’t they change his mind on all the other marriages 20 or 30 who the elders destroyed these marriages and D. was backing the elders all the way and the last thirty years. He should tell G.W. and S.H. like he told W.S. and their children they were wrong and K.W.’s marriage to B.W. should have been saved. But no, D. stuck his nose in the marriage and the family and taught hate and teachings against that marriage.

What is the difference between these two families? Is it blood or water? Walter White would have put these marriages together. No, not D., he is a double minded man in all of his teachings and destroyed that marriage. Like the elders taught and tore apart.

I talked to a man in this church and I did not believe him when he said there were thirty or more marriages that the elders judged and condemned those marriages to Hell. Like I can read what Walter White preached and saved marriages by staying together and repenting and helping each other per chance God would let them make themselves a vessel to honor.

People will follow D. just like they followed the elders’ gunk and tore down Walter White’s teaching. Walter White put marriages together – and the count [of destroyed marriages] none against him. The elders count of destroying all those filthy men and women’s marriages, 30 and still counting.

Ask anyone in this church what good thing or honest thing that helped this church or people. Which elder and how many teachings you can name. None. They put this church to sleep. Believe it or not, we will all find out at the end of time. Another hate and try to get control of people.

Brethren are having dreams and visions of other brethren condemning them for doing the right thing and asking and talking for a preacher for their children. And they warn these unruly brethren not to teach their children or tell them that they need a preacher. Glory be to self-righteousness. It is like the scripture says, they will love the one with fine clothing and words of praise, the easy way is not to have religion because it is so much easier to sing songs and no scripture be read which would only condemn 99% of the church.

So they wait on God and don’t do anything like D.’s way. Because it is easy. No cross to bear, just sit back and be admired. Who did call D. and all these men who follow? D., who has backed the elders not Walter White. For the past 35 years, what has been talked and taught? Not wanting a preacher, no! Just be contented and sleep on!

What these men in this church are teaching, no preacher and be happy. They are falling and fell away and believed those lying elders when Walter passed away, and they are also perverting the word of God.

So this is some of the lies and gunk which has happened and being taught.



  1. I'm starting to wonder if the scriptures were opened to that body, how many would even stay around to hear it? Is that what their trying to avoid by keeping it out? Maybe if it was, their children would then understand the true level of deception they are facing. With no teaching of any kind, for so long, what would you expect to find in the wake of that level of madness.

    1. They way I was taught is that it would be better to stay as ignorant as possible about the scriptures. The reason for that is you are accountable for what you know. We were to be innocent like children, since we couldn't (according to the church doctrine) be baptized.

  2. This is so true, and so very sad. What was told to me all my growing up was that god knows our situation and he will make a way. What is sad about that statement is that god already made a way and that is through his son Jesus Christ. What a slap in the face to GOD to say that his way is not sufficient. And our fairy tale and dreams are better than his way. I was told through my growing up to wait on god and he will make a way. I was never told or explained what Christ did for me. I do not belive that they want to hear or to know of the truth. Just put up another baseball sign up sheet, and ignor the fact the pulpit is empty. The more you know the more you will be accountable for. So let's eat drink and be merry. For our lord tarries. So you see if you don't seek ask knock you can not be accountable for nothing. But if you deny Christ he will deny you before the father. It is all about free will. It's up to each person. These people are comfortable where they are and do not want to hear the truth. Some have heard the truth but can not act apon it for fear of what the person next to them might do. Draw neigh unto him and he will draw neigh unto you.

  3. I'm starting to wonder what difference would it really make if they had a preacher. He would have to come from outside of that group and we all know that is not going to be easy it. That would take a miracle. There are groups in Idaho that have and don't have preachers. But the teaching/doctrine are exactly the same. I have heard and I beleive it you could put them all in brown paper bag shake em all up,roll them out,and you could not tell one from the other. So it seems that the difference between being baptized and not is one gets to play church and the other doesn't. Why I say that is because I know and they know that not everyone gets baptized for the right reasons. Some so they could get married. Some so they could take part in church. Some so they pray outloud. Some so they could anoint. So on and so forth. How many have been buried with HIM (CHRIST) in HIS death and have truly died. And have truly risen with HIM to life eternal. Baptism is a covenent. And this particular covenent comes with a promise an everlasting one. (thats the purpose of baptism) So could any body tell me what difference it would make If these in OC were to get a preacher? It would be some body like Tom no offence to Tom at all. This is truth that has never been taught. If I were to be baptized in this group here in Idaho they would deam me as an unbeliever right from the start. The death of Christ reconciled us to God we are saved by His life. (Rom. 5:9) Not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God by the resurrection of Jesus Christ. (1 Peter 3:21) So the FOC has tought that we get baptized to be saved from sins. My question would be which ones: lying, thieving, blasphemy, disobedent to parents, or adultry. Or could it be said this way, the lawyer asked our Lord which was the greatest comandment.(Matt. 22:35-40) Not even for a consecutive moment have we kept it. Adam sined once and all of creation fell. We have sined more times than a super computer could count. We are not sinners because we sin. We sin because we are sinners from birth. Salvation is not being saved from sin. Salvation is escaping the Holy and Righteous wrath of God. And that comes from being born again. That which is born of the flesh is flesh (Adam) and that which is born of Spirit is spirit. (Spirit) And it could not be any clearer than that. The water is a physical birth of the flesh the Spirit is the spirit. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but can not tell whence it cometh ,and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.(Jon. 3:5-8) I beleive this passage has always been misinterpreted in the FOC. Christ came that we (not all) could have life and that eternal life. He gave His life for the life of world. The life we have was given to us through Adam. (EARTHY) His life eternal. (HEAVENLY) (1 Cor. 15:47)
    MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON US ALL is my prayer Amen!!!

    1. Just going through some old topics. I came across another post I had done back in march. At that time I did not know how to sign with my name. Their might be even one more, not sure. This one was on March 11 2012 at 11:24 pm.

  4. Interesting letter, Suzi. I think the letter writer was right, from what I know of the situation.

  5. Are/were the letters kept at the church for all the members to view? Were copies given to all the current members? I ask since it is interesting how they were available for you to publish. Not questioning your right to publish just amazed that they are still around after so many years.

    1. The letters were mass-mailed to many (120) FOC families. I have historical documents that are far, far older than these.

  6. He wrote that the scripture being read in that church would condemn 99% of the people in that church? It kind of does that to everyone, so you repent, and change your ways. Something tells me it 's the repenting and changing your ways that would be the problem here. They seem to like things just the way they are, don't they?


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